In this article, you’re going to learn the differences between Kratom and Neurontin, and how to use Kratom and Neurontin together in a way that is safe and effective.
These are two substances (the natural Kratom and pharmaceutical Neurontin) that have helped countless individuals treat issues like opiate addiction, anxiety, depression, muscle tension, PTSD, and chronic pain.
To start things off, I’ll first provide you with brief overviews on Kratom and Neurontin.
After that, I’ll discuss the similarities and differences between Kratom and Neurontin.
Next, you’ll learn about the Kratom/Neurontin combination and how this synergistic duo makes you feel. Then, I’ll add a section with a step-by-step plan for you to use Kratom and Neurontin in a manner that is both safe and effective.
Okay, I hope you’re ready to learn some really awesome facts on the science of these two substances!
And without further ado, let’s begin…starting with a brief overview of the controversial Kratom plant…
Table of Contents
- 1 Kratom Overview
- 2 Kratom Risks and Effects
- 3 Biochemical Uniqueness and Kratom
- 4 My First Kratom Experience
- 5 Neurontin Overview
- 6 Neurontin Risks and Effects
- 7 Biochemical Uniqueness and Neurontin
- 8 Neurontin For Opiate Withdrawal
- 9 Neurontin and Kratom Similarities and Differences
- 10 Effects from Using Neurontin and Kratom Together
- 11 Where to Get Kratom
- 12 How To Use Neurontin and Kratom Together
Kratom is an evergreen tree native to Southeast Asia and is a member of the coffee family. Currently, kratom is not regulated by the Drug Enforcement Agency in the United States (making it legal). However, some states have passed laws banning kratom, and it seems like more and more states are banning it or trying to ban it lately.
Despite common misconception, Kratom is NOT AN OPIATE.
Kratom, simply put, is an opioid-agonist.
Once a person takes a dose of Kratom, the drug binds to the same opioid receptors in the brain and other parts of the body that opiates bind to, and as a result, leads to effects that feel very similar (though not identical) to opiate drugs.
Mitragynine, the major alkaloid in Kratom, is a partial opioid agonist producing similar effects to morphine. An interesting minor alkaloid of kratom, 7-hyrdoxymitragynine, has been reported to be more potent than morphine.
Both kratom alkaloids activate supraspinal mu- and delta-opioid receptors, which is the main reason the plant alleviates pain and opiate withdrawal symptoms/cravings so well.
To sum things up, Kratom is not an opiate, however, it binds to the same opioid receptors that opiate drugs bind to. Thus, Kratom is a legal plant that can be used as a natural alternative to prescription or illicit opiates.
Kratom Risks and Effects
I will warn you with a good dose of caution, however, that many individuals are addicted to Kratom. If you take too much for too long, it can even cause a horrible withdrawal syndrome very similar to opiate withdrawal.
People can develop addictions to Kratom because the effects can be quite nice, and though I’ve never become addicted to it while testing different strains and dosages, I can see why so many people abuse it.
Kratom effects include the following:
- Pain Relief
- Mental Stimulation
Note: The Kratom effects vary depending on the strain and dosage used. For instance, lower dosages in the 2-6 gram range could produce stimulating effects, while higher dosages from 7-10 grams or more can lead to more pain relief and sedation.
*Furthermore, the red Kratom strains tend to be the most sedating, while the white strains are typically more stimulating. The green strains are typically not as stimulating as white strains, and not as sedating as red ones, and fall somewhere in the middle of the two.
Biochemical Uniqueness and Kratom
There are many different strains of Kratom to choose from. Kratom has become extremely popular, and there’s an abundance of different strains available online and in smoke shops. As I previously mentioned, different strains have different effects.
Along with this, each human being has their own individual biochemical makeup.
Thus, the same Kratom strain and dosage might make one person feel ABSOLUTELY AMAZING, while it could make another person sick to their stomach. There really is no way to know how you will respond to a particular strain or dosage until you try it.
My First Kratom Experience
After two years of being fascinated with the Kratom plant, I finally gained the courage to try it from a strictly investigative perspective.
I wasn’t using Kratom for medicinal or recreational purposes. I simply wanted to feel the effects of the plant before I wrote an article on how to use kratom for opiate withdrawal. I had been nervous about trying Kratom for some time due to it’s potential to become habit-forming over prolonged use.
But I had ultimate faith in my high level of self-discipline, so I decided to try Kratom for the first time. I ended up really enjoying the mild buzz, which felt a lot like taking hydrocodone, though not exactly.
Relaxing on the couch hadn’t been that much fun in years.
Gabapentin, sold under the brand names Neurontin among others, is a prescription medication that was designed by chemists at Parke-Davis to be an analog of the neurotransmitter GABA that could more easily cross the blood-brain barrier, thus making the effects in the brain very significant.
GABA is an inhibitory neurotransmitter that acts as a mental relaxant. I often refer to GABA as the “brain’s natural Valium.”
Neurontin is commonly prescribed for the treatment of:
- Hot Flashes
- Restless Leg Syndrome
- Neuropathic Pain
Neurontin is also commonly prescribed for many off-label uses, such as the treatment of:
- Bipolar Disorder
- Anxiety Disorders
Neurontin Risks and Effects
Neurontin is typically sedating, though it can give some people energy and euphoria. Neurontin is also growing more popular as a prescription medication to abuse to get high.
Some people can get high on Neurontin alone, while others need to use Neurontin with certain other drugs to get the high feeling.
Neurontin daily use for as short as a month or two and especially longer can lead to dependence, and some people become psychologically addicted to Neurontin too, meaning their bodies aren’t just needing it to prevent withdrawal, but they actually can’t imagine life without the drug.
Neurontin can cause a horrific withdrawal syndrome when you discontinue it abruptly after you’ve taken it daily for a prolonged period of time, and many people that have experienced this have wished they never took Neurontin in the first place.
Biochemical Uniqueness and Neurontin
As with Kratom, due to an individual’s unique biochemical individuality, Neurontin will have varying effects with different people. Some people love the Neurontin effects and can tolerate high dosages even if they’ve never used it before.
Meanwhile, other people hate the Neurontin effects and say it makes them dizzy and have blurred vision, bloating, and other side effects.
So remember that you can’t know exactly how you’ll respond to Neurontin until you try it yourself. If you’ve heard from people that it works great, it doesn’t guarantee you’ll feel great on Neurontin. And if people have told you that Neurontin sucks, that doesn’t guarantee it’ll suck for you too.
Neurontin For Opiate Withdrawal
In addition to Neurontin being useful in the disorders mentioned above, multiple studies have shown significant benefits from using Neurontin for opiate withdrawal.
In fact, whenever I have coaching clients that have consultations with me, I always ask them if they have the ability to get Neurontin as it’s one of my favorite opiate withdrawal medications out of dozens I’ve studied.
Neurontin and Kratom Similarities and Differences
As you can tell from reading about Neurontin and Kratom, they have some overlapping similarities, and they also have a few substantial differences.
In this section, I’ll list off the similarities and differences of Neurontin and Kratom, which will give you a nice little matchup of these two substances.
Neurontin and Kratom similarities:
- Neurontin and Kratom are both helpful for opioid withdrawal.
- Neurontin and Kratom are both helpful for anxiety and insomnia.
- Neurontin and Kratom are both potentially addictive substances.
- Neurontin and Kratom can both cause dependence, meaning you can go through a nasty withdrawal syndrome by stopping both substances cold-turkey after you’ve taken them daily for even as short as a month or two.
- Neurontin and Kratom can both help to reduce pain (especially when used together).
Neurontin and Kratom differences:
- Kratom is a natural plant in the coffee family, and Neurontin is a man-made pharmaceutical drug.
- Kratom’s main mechanisms of action are increasing the amount of neurotransmitters endorphin and dopamine, and Neurontin increases the amount of GABA in the brain.
- Kratom is legal without a prescription federally (though it’s banned in some states), and Neurontin is illegal to purchase and use unless you have a script from your physician.
Effects from Using Neurontin and Kratom Together
If you’ve never used either of these before, the combination of using Neurontin and Kratom has a high likelihood of being so strong that it’s unpleasant at best… and deadly at worst.
If you’re currently on the daily use of opioids like hydrocodone, heroin, oxycodone, Suboxone, or methadone and you’re thinking of using Neurontin and Kratom together to help you quit, this can be an awesome combination.
However, it’s often best to first use a little of either Neurontin and Kratom after you’ve stopped taking opioids.
For example, a man named Todd who is addicted to 300 mg oxycodone daily takes his last dose of oxy at night before bed, then wakes up at 9 am the following morning and instead of taking oxy like usual, he could either take one teaspoon of Kratom or 300 mg of Neurontin to see the effects.
Then, if he’s not getting enough withdrawal symptoms relief after an hour or 90 minutes, he could take another teaspoon of Kratom or another 300 mg of Neurontin.
And after raising his dosage slowly to be safe, if he’s on a high dosage of Kratom or Neurontin and still is going through uncomfortable opioid withdrawal, he might add in the second substance.
For example, if Todd used 1200 mg of Neurontin on the morning of day one of acute oxycodone withdrawal and still felt awful, he might use a teaspoon of Kratom to supplement the Neurontin. And if the teaspoon of Kratom still didn’t work, then he might take another teaspoon of Kratom.
Coming off 300 mg oxycodone cold-turkey is a substantial task, but in this case, perhaps Todd found out that 1200 mg of Neurontin combined with two teaspoons of Kratom 3x a day was the perfect protocol to feel comfortable quitting his 300 mg a day oxycodone dependence.
Bottom Line: Since Neurontin and Kratom can both work as CNS depressants that calm down the brain and body, this can result in synergy, where the combination of the two is greater than the sum of the parts. So this combo can be too strong for some people in some situations, can get some people high, could kill some people, could be perfect for some people based on the situation they’re in, or finally, might not even be strong enough for some people (such as a person using the combination to come off a HUGE fentanyl addiction).
Where to Get Kratom
Finally, we’ve reached the “How-To” section. Now you’re going to learn how to use Neurontin and Kratom together in a manner that is both safe and effective.
The first important fact I need to mention is that many online vendors have Kratom.
I’ve tried at least a dozen online companies, and I’ve only found one that has premium and pure Kratom that also has great prices and excellent customer service.
My preferred online vendor for high-quality Kratom is TopExtracts.com.
The owner, Jim, is the nicest business owner you’ll ever meet, and his top-notch customer service and integrity, coupled with his obsession for only carrying the most premium botanical powders and extracts, are what separates him from the rest of the online vendors I’ve reviewed.
How To Use Neurontin and Kratom Together
This is just informational use and is not medical advice. If you believe you have a condition please speak with your doctor. There are so many different scenarios of a person using Neurontin and Kratom together that I can’t give a one-size-fits-all action plan.
However, I’ll do my best to provide examples that are common, and in doing so, hopefully, you get the info you’re looking for here.
Examples of people using Neurontin and Kratom together:
1. Michael has never used an opioid (including Kratom) and has never used Neurontin. He is looking for chronic pain remedies and learns of this combo. He decides to use a teaspoon of Kratom alone and finds that it helps 90% of his pain go away, and then he adds 100 mg of Neurontin and falls asleep because the combo was a bit much for him.
2. Christine is addicted to 100 mg of hydrocodone a day on average. She takes two teaspoons of Kratom on the morning she quits the pills and feels 60% relief, and then she adds 200 mg of Neurontin on top of the Kratom and she feels a 90% symptom relief.
3. Sierra has been using Kratom daily for three years to prevent relapse back onto heroin, as well as for chronic back pain. She finds that the Kratom is not working nearly as well as it used to, so she takes 300 mg of Neurontin 3x a day in addition to the Kratom and her pain is under control again and her cravings for heroin go away too.
- Kratom is a natural plant in the coffee family that is legal and available to purchase without a prescription (but banned in some states).
- Neurontin is a prescription pharmaceutical medication.
- Kratom is not an opiate but it is a partial opioid agonist, giving it opiate-like effects.
- Kratom and Neurontin are both helpful for opioid withdrawal, pain, restless legs, anxiety, and insomnia.
- Kratom and Neurontin are both potentially addictive substances.
- Kratom and Neurontin can both cause dependence, meaning you can go through a nasty withdrawal syndrome by stopping both substances cold-turkey after you’ve taken them daily for even as short as a month or two.
- Kratom and Neurontin synergize when used together, meaning it has the potential to be very powerful, even deadly.
- People that have never used Kratom or Neurontin should not take the two together for their first time.
- Kratom and Neurontin used together are one of the most helpful opioid withdrawal remedies there are, but Kratom is still an opioid so technically you’re not off all opioids when you take it.
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