In this article, I’m going to teach you how to use clonidine for opiate withdrawal. Clonidine is the “go-to” medication prescribed by the majority of physicians for the treatment of opiate withdrawal. Why?
Clonidine is an extremely powerful medication for easing opiate withdrawal symptoms.
Countless opiate abusers have greatly ameliorated their withdrawal symptoms by using clonidine for opiate withdrawal. It’s a wonderful medication, and I even used it once in the past for heroin withdrawal. It worked incredibly well at reducing my anxiety, insomnia, chills, goosebumps and racing heartbeat. Here’s how clonidine can help you…
How Clonidine Works in the Body
Clonidine is a blood pressure (hypertension) medication that belongs to a class of drugs known as central alpha agonists. According to the American Heart Association:
Central alpha agonists are drugs that lower heart rate and reduce blood pressure. They work by preventing the brain from sending signals from the nervous system to speed up the heart rate and narrow the blood vessels. As a result, the heart doesn’t pump as hard and blood flows more easily through blood vessels.”
Clonidine is also classified as a sympatholytic drug, which is a medication that inhibits the postganglionic functioning of the sympathetic nervous system (SNS). The SNS is part of the nervous system that is responsible for the fight or flight response.
Sympatholytic drugs are commonly used as antihypertensives and for the following disorders:
- Anxiety
- Generalized Anxiety Disorder
- Panic Disorder
- PTSD
Using Clonidine for Opiate Withdrawal Symptoms
Clonidine is the most prescribed opiate withdrawal medication for a reason…it works! Clonidine is by no means a “magic bullet” because it doesn’t eliminate all of your opiate withdrawal symptoms.
However, when used correctly clonidine can ease the following opiate withdrawal symptoms:
- Reduces anxiety
- Helps you fall and stay asleep
- Slows down a racing heartbeat which helps to calm you down
- Prevents Restless Leg Syndrome (RLS) from opiate withdrawal
- Gets rid of the chills and goosebumps
Using clonidine for opiate withdrawal can sometimes lead to the following side effects:
- Low blood pressure (hypotension)
- Dry mouth (drink water or chew on sugarless gum)
- Drowsiness
- Lightheadedness
- Dizziness
- Constipation
Some rare side effects from using clonidine for opiate withdrawal include:
- Breathing problems
- Cold hands/feet
- Rashes and/or swelling on your body
- Depression
- Irregular heartbeat
- An allergic reaction to clonidine
Clonidine for Opiate Withdrawal Study
Many studies have confirmed the benefits of using clonidine for opiate withdrawal. The following passage is taken directly from a 1980 study, titled Efficacy of Clonidine in Opiate Withdrawal: A Study of Thirty Patients:
In a placebo-controlled, double-blind crossover trial, clonidine caused a marked and significant reduction of objective signs and subjective symptoms of opiate withdrawal in thirty hospitalized opiate addicts. In an open trial of clonidine in opiate withdrawal, clonidine was found to suppress opiate withdrawal signs and symptoms, allowing all of the patients to detoxify successfully from chronic opiate addiction. Clonidine was demonstrated to reverse and suppress the signs, symptoms, and effects associated with opiate withdrawal.”
Wow…that’s a pretty powerful statement. Simply put, clonidine for opiate withdrawal is a very effective and simple way to reduce symptoms. However, for clonidine to be effective you need to use the correct clonidine dosage for opiate withdrawal.
Clonidine Dosage for Opiate Withdrawal:
When I was researching the optimum clonidine dosage for opiate withdrawal, I came across a perfect protocol on the website for the Federation of Texas Psychiatry. In my opinion, it’s the best plan for using clonidine for opiate withdrawal. The following passage is taken directly from the article:
Office-Based Outpatient Withdrawal Techniques: A Guide – Opiates
Clonidine-Aided Detoxification
1. Oral
Day 1: 0.1-0.2 mg orally every 4 hours up to 1 mg
Day 2-4: 0.1-0.2 mg orally every 4 hours up to 1.2 mg
Day 5 to completion: Reduce 0.2 mg/day; given in divided doses; the night-time dose
should be reduced last; or reduce total dosage by one-half each day not to exceed 0.4 mg/day
2. Patch
The clonidine patch comes in three strengths (#1, #2, #3) and delivers over one week the equivalent of a daily dose of oral clonidine (e.g., #2 patch = 0.2 mg oral clonidine, daily, etc.).
One technique is to apply one #2 patch for patients under 100 lbs, two #2 patches if they weigh 100-200 lbs and three #2 patches for those over 200 lbs. Also, on day one (the day the patch is applied) oral clonidine may be necessary- 0.2 mg q 6hours for 24 hours, then 0.1 mg q 6 hours for the second 24 hours.
The patches should be removed if systolic pressure falls below 80 mm hg or diastolic below 50 mg hg.
Advantages of patch:
• Patients don’t have to take pills several times a day
• Even blood levels of medication
• Buildup of withdrawal symptoms during night is prevented
Blood pressure monitoring is important as hypotension can occur especially in thin patients. Advise patient to take blood pressure before and 20 minutes after a dose of Clonidine. If “lightheaded” or dizzy, patient should lie down. Adequate fluid intake is important. Contact physician if dizziness continues.
Clonidine Patch for Opiate Withdrawal
The clonidine patch is a 0.2 mm square that is applied in the same manner as a self-adhesive bandage. As stated above, the clonidine patch comes in three strengths.
In a 24-hour period, these clonidine patches deliver an amount of clonidine equivalent to twice-daily dosing with 0.1, 0.2, or 0.3 mg of oral clonidine, respectively. The clonidine patch for opiate withdrawal supplies clonidine for up to 7 days.
How to Have an Easy Opiate Withdrawal
Using clonidine for opiate withdrawal can help to relieve some of the most severe symptoms. However, using clonidine for opiate withdrawal will not eliminate all of your symptoms. Using clonidine for opiate withdrawal does nothing for fatigue, nor does have the ability to rebalance brain chemistry that has been disrupted by opiate abuse.
Finally, it does absolutely nothing for the post-acute withdrawal symptoms that arise after the acute withdrawal phase has ended. It’s for these reasons that I HIGHLY RECOMMEND using a powerful and natural opiate withdrawal supplement.
Opiate Withdrawal Supplements can be used in combination with clonidine to further reduce symptoms. This will help to ensure that you have a mild opiate withdrawal. Furthermore, an Opiate Withdrawal Supplement will help to reduce the post-acute withdrawal symptoms in a major way.
The natural herbs, amino acids, vitamins, minerals and other nutrients in these supplements can benefit you in the following ways:
- Reverses anxiety
- Helps you fall and stay asleep
- Fights fatigue and increases natural energy production
- Soothes aching muscles and limbs
- Eases Restless Leg Syndrome
- Helpful for nausea
- Stops sweating, chills, and hot/cold flashes
- Reverses depression
- Powerful mood-enhancer
- Treats both acute and post-acute withdrawal symptoms
If you can afford it, I also highly recommend taking this awesome supplement, because the benefits are just too good to pass up.
Click here now to view my best home detox program. If you have any questions on using clonidine for opiate withdrawal, please post them in the comment box below.
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OMG – Clonidine sounds crazy terrible!!!! I was a big heroin addict for 3 months – was doing it constantly – all day, everday for 14hrs per day. I tried to quit one time, made it 20 hrs and thought I was going to die – very scary!!! So I started heroin again while waiting for my Suboxone order to arrive…. The next time I tried to quit I waited 18hrs until I felt like I was going to die – and then took 2mg (1/4 tab) of Suboxone. I felt fine in an hour, and was cured with just that one 2mg dose – no need for any more of the Suboxone. Simply amazing, usually it’s supposed to take a month or more of suboxone, but that one dose did it for me – WoW – a miracle drug!!!! Read up on Suboxone, so you understand the dosages and procedures and you should be good.
You went a heroin addict if 2mg of subs once cured you lol. That wouldn’t cure a 2 week Codiene habit.Please be truthful as others are seeking help. I have found clonodine together with Valium for a week relieves almost all physical symptoms.
This is the dumbest comment I’ve ever seen. I truly don’t even know where to begin. The other commenter was right but also one sub isn’t going to keep anyone from withdrawals. Inpatient Facilities use them for 10 days, and even then people still have withdrawals from the subs. This is someone trying to get people hooked on shitty suboxone. Don’t do it. Heroin withdrawals are worse upfront but sub withdrawals will last many months.
I have to agree…the best way to detox is with Valium, and Clonodine for a week. Suboxin will give you even worse withdrawal coming off of it. I have done it both ways and a week verses months is true. I will never take subs again! I pray whoever reads this will get thru it and will dig deep to find the root of the cause for addiction. May you find peace and rest in Jesus Christ who is the only one able to save us all, God bless everyone!
I started using hydrocodone in 1989. I used every form until 2000. I started banging oxycontin in 2000 and yo -yo’d those, from Mexico and every PM Clinic that would write. I started methadone in 2005 , switched to Suboxone in 2006, and have been taking it for 13 years. I take two 8mg strips daily. For me, a day on Suboxone is better than any day while I was banging opiates. Everyone does react differently to each and every detox scenario we all fear, the word “dope sick” to surely follow. If possible, and this is just my opinion, tapering down along with benzos and clonodine was the best scenario.For me, it was ALWAYS easier to come off 20mg daily than 400mg of any opiates. Rest assured, I have, not by choice, done the cold turkey route many times. Thinking back on it, I remember all too well those dark, cold days and nights. The main thing for me was getting 4 walls around me and a good addictionologist, tapering and monitoring me for a week . I’m old enough to have been to numerous 28 day standard treatments. Today’s insurance seldom pays for more than basic detox. Good luck whichever path you land on…
I’m a chronic pain patient and my intrathecal pump is being reduced by over 90% or I can wait for it to run out and it’ll be 100%. I have never misused my medication, but I am going to suffer for months because my doctor is too chicken s**t to handle the change from morphine to fentanyl correctly. I’m really scared.
Current IV MME (morphine equivalent dosage): 580mg basal plus 240mg across six boluses
New IV MME: 30mg
With boluses 96.34% reduction
without boluses 95% reduction
I’ve been researching opioid withdrawal a lot and this is the first resource I’ve found that gives me a direct answer to dosing my clonidine (I have clonidine pills & patches, mostly patches, from when I was put on it for my PTSD)
Thank you
I too am off the fentanyl patch and oxycodone after 10 plus years…am weaned down to 5mg in am and 5 at night of methadone…now how do I get off this?…just got Clonidine, but not prescribed the way it’s written here…any ideas? Got my cannabis card in fla and it has really helped get off so much other stuff! But wait…. just fired from P.M. dr because of that! Now what to do? I want off this and I’m almost there! What kind of dr will see me??? I don’t want any more pain meds, but am so fearful of running out of the methadone ina few days and I need to find out how to further taper without missing any more work! In a bad place….. want my life back now! Any ideas?? I sure hope u are healed and doing well.😀🎶
I believe what you’re doing is awesome! I read your whole blog, and you offer so much hope to the opiate abuser. The only thing I would emphasize is the importance of doing recovery with others, not alone. And of course the importance of developing a relationship with a power greater than oneself. Possibly the most important part of long term happiness, contentment, and the freedom from ever using again. The disease is fatal. That is also significant. So be sure you don’t make them dependent on you. No human power can relieve us of our addictions, but God could and would if he were sought. Yours truly, Sonny (Recovering Addict since 1980)
Hey Matt, I have a question. I have been taking Oxycodone instant release 30 mg 4 times a day for pain. But I have been abusing them and not taking them four times a day. Instead, I have been taking 60-90 MG per evening for about 2 months. I want to cold turkey and deal with hell for a week because I did it once before, about 4 months ago, so I know what to expect. But after re thinking, my doctor is going to prescribe me Clonidine next week. He has me on a tapering schedule. Now would he prescribe me to take the Clonidine while tapering? Like hours apart from the oxycodone ? Or would I have to come off completely and cold turkey, and then take Clonidine the following day when starting to feel the early onset of withdrawal symptoms? Or should I say, what would YOU do? Would you stop cold turkey, then take the Clonidine? ALSO, will the Clonidine take away that “good” feeling of roxicodone, if I were to take it the same days while tapering.
A response would e so helpful. Thanks Bud.
I have the same question, and would be thrilled if someone would answer it.
Also, in addition to Clonidine, I’ve been subscribed Cyclobenzaprine and Hyoscyamine sulfate, and I have the same question regarding them.
I have detoxed myself from iv fent numerous times. I actually use clonidine .4mg at a time two to three times a day and my magic cure that I swear by, gabapentin. I take 1600mg of that in a stacked way of 300mg every 45 minutes or if given the 800mg pills ths 400mg every 45 minutes. Stacking them allows time for the amino acid transport system to become unsaturated. But ask your doctor for it. In combination with the clonidine I work and feel amazing. I literally swear by this and it has helped past friends kick heroin addictions while still working. Plus you get a like buzz going.
Hi Tripp, I have the 800mh Gabapentin and it’s taking so long to work it seems. I have RLS and need relief badly. Is Gabapentin time released or something? I don’t know what to do. I have .01 Clonidine as well. I’m so upset right now. Took the Sleep Support plus the Gabapentin In 600mgs then increased each 30min with 200mgs and still no real relief. Smh. I’m pissed
I was a full blown heroin addict who after all the back and forth of trying to quit and not being able to stay clean I finally did and then was put on suboxone, I stayed on suboxone and now am subsequently on subutex because I got pregnant 2yrs ago, not in drugs though. But I never relapsed back on heroin or any other street drugs once I decided I wanted to get clean. I’ve been on suboxone and subutex for nearly 10yrs and have found myself ready to get off. I tapered down to maybe .25mg while pregnant but they wouldn’t let me jump off due to the risk of harming the baby. So my dose went back up after my son was born due to having postpartum. Fast forward to today, 2yrs later, I tapered again and jumped off around 1-2mg maybe a little less. My doctor prescribed clonidine for withdrawal, a sleep aid and clonazepam for added anxiety. It’s been a week and today is the first day I actually feel semi normal, thank God! But still weak, and fatigued at times. Today I didn’t take any of the clonidine because I noticed when I did I felt so loopy and spacey and dizzy. I hated it. But it definitely helped with the withdrawal symptoms. Question for you is, is that amount of dizziness common while taking that medication and is there something else I can take for any residual side affects I may end up having? Suboxone and subutex can be amazing to help people get clean and hopefully stay clean but the notion that it’s ok to be on a small dose for the rest of your life is ridiculous. I hate that I wasted 10yrs on this crap. I’m noticing things I never even looked twice at, smells and sounds are coming back to me and I’m realizing that a part of me may have just been dead inside while taking those medications. For those of you quitting and in the thick of it, I pray for you!!! Stick with it, please!!! I’m only 7 days in but day 7 feels so much more amazing than the dreaded day 3!! You got this! Once we make it to the other side we will know it will have been beyond worth it and we will know how f’ing amazingly strong we all are!!!
I know this was a long time ago but how are you doing? What does were you on while pregnant
Eleven years on a 50 fent every 3 and weaned like this: 10 days 37 every 2; 10 days 37 every 3; 10 days 25 every 2; 10 days 25 every 3; 12 every 2 for 10; 12 every 2 for 8; the T3’s – 6 day 1, 5 day 2; 4 day 3; 3 day 4; 2 day 5. Used clonidine through out .1mg morning, .2 mg at night. And THC oil at night.
Ok, the withdrawals had an ebb and flow. I’ll summarize. The physical stuff was annoying – sweats, stomach cramps…Imodium and gavascon took care of A good chunk. Not so bad. The twitchy legs were manageable and ended about 5 days after each drop. Get out and walk if you can. Treadmill in doors. Biggest issue – lack of sleep and a hair trigger temper, some bouts of melancholy, and it took about a month after I finished to feel any happiness and get more than 3 – 4 hours sleep. Didn’t sleep for 3 days straughg on the second 37 cycle, and some single days here and there.
Now I’m heading for a device back surgery. This is a big one. Double fusion and two laminectomies.
It’s clear the OMA in Ontario did a piss poor job of planning this. I got my script for this stuff and never heard from my doctor again. Thank God fir the internet. Zero support. Good thing I’m older and new how to plan for this, have dealt with physical and mental adversity many times, understand what was coming, and toughed it out. First time. No thought of a relapse, although I can easily see why someone would. But for the surgery, and about 6 weeks away from the last Tylenol, I’m fine but for soft stool and back pain. And chuckle, some foot pain that I never knew I had. 6 hours sleep a night now and that’s a dream come true. If I can do this, at home entirely on my own as far as medical support, so can you.
Hi today I used. But every day I’m breaking down. I’m so tired of using heroin. This is my first time going public with my addiction. And I’m in tears now. I’ve been ready to stop using. Pretty much. For about a year now. I’ve been on the needle for 4 months. I’m so tired of being sick and spending all my money on it and my relationship is stretched to the max my son loves me so much and I him and I. Just want this to be over the money on my back has me so afraid. To even thing about stopping. But today I came across clonodines and have heard they are very helpful I also have kratom. I just am here venting and admitting I have a problem. And I know it’s time to take matters into my own hands. If you read this please pray for my success I can’t end up like my father who overdoesed at 53 on this monster. Please tell me what I can do with the clonodines thanks
Kyle, I feel for you…and I will pray for you!!! I’ve been in your place many times and it’s so hard to get out. It’s like a viscous monster takes control over you and every aspect of you life and you know it…but the need and the desire is too strong to let go and fight the monster. Now that your using needles it’s going to be that much harder to quit. Most people become addicted to the needle as well. We both know your high will never be the same again now that you’ve shot up. But what you need to know is that there is a BETTER LIFE waiting for you. A normal life, one where you wake up feeling refreshed and happy and ready to start your day. Not like the ones you have now where all you do is think about how your gonna get high, where your gonna get it and on and on. Clonidine does help with withdrawal for sure but it’s not necessarily going to keep you clean. You need to find a suboxone/subutex program and get on that at least for a month or 2 to clear your head a little and to combat the cravings. I was on both of those medications for almost 10yrs and am just getting off them this week. But my story in the beginning was very similar to yours…tired of the back and forth, getting high, then getting sick cuz you don’t have the money, then getting high again. And now your shooting…I did the same thing but I got to the other side and I know you can too! It seems impossible and beyond scary, it is scary, but it’s very possible. You are way stronger a person then you know. Plus you said you have a little boy who probably loves you to death and you could do no wrong in his eyes. Do this for yourself so that you can be the best father to him possible. You deserve that and so does he! Your in my prayers!!! Today day clean is better than yesterday high!! You got this!
I have a quick question can u take clonidine and then take suboxones after cause like I can go the whole 24 hours to take suboxones but the er gave me clonidine so it can help but I forget to ask if I can mix them or do I have to wait hours??
You do not have to wait. Clonidine taken before Suboxone will not cause a precipitated withdrawal or interfere in any way.
I was just reading, scrolling, and came across this thread completely by accident. I don’t usually comment on these type of threads but your comment touched me deeply. I don’t make a habit of announcing that I am also a junkie, this drug completely turned my life upside down and inside out, put me at ROCK BOTTTOM! After much hassle I am going to rehab today ( it’s 1:40 am now ) . I wish I had medical knowledge to help you but I have live one hell of a life and despite the fact I’m a junkie I am a good person who stretches myself too thin oftentimes attempting to help others and I am pretty intelligent. I say all this to say that it seems to me you are going to be just fine, you can and WILL beat this monkey, you have the first and most important thing down already- you recognize your problem, your disgusted and prepared to do whatever it takes to regain your life. I’m not going to say “good luck” , it’s not about luck but rather determination and you are on your way, you have this and though I don’t know I will pray for you. I wouldn’t wish this on my worst enemy, both the best thing in the world and the worst at the same time – the devil. Stay strong, stay focused.
Hi Matt:
I was taking clonazepam for 3 years for anxiety and oxycodone for 2 years for chronic back pain. I quit clonazepam 40 days ago (my own choice). Yesterday went to the doctor because of increasing symptoms and she prescribed my clonidine at night to help with symptoms at night. I haven’t start it yet. I just figured that for the first time Im going to run low in oxycodone until monday. I take 5 pills a day and I have just 8 left for the weekend (friday, saturday, subday and monday morning) I figured that probably I was taking more oxycodone because of the clonazepam withdrawl. I dont want to increase my withdrawl with not having oxycodone. How should you recommend me to use the clonidine during this weekend to help me with symptoms because of the oxycodone dropping dose?
Thank you for your suppot
Hi Matt- is it safe to take clonidine for an extended period of time (say 3 months) 0.1mg 2-3x a day for extended long term suboxone withdrawal?
I was taking Tramadol for back pain and decided to get off of it, the withdrawals from that was, for me worse than when I had an addiction to Norco 5 years ago. I used clonidine for withdrawals from those opioids and it helps greatly.
So happy using clonidine for opiate withdrawal worked so well for you Kip!
i heard that lyrica and clonidine works great for getting off tramadol is it safe to take both of them together ? please advice what is the best way to not feel the pain of withdrawing tramadol???
Lyrica works very well. It is contraindicated with clonidine but some people going through opiate withdrawal take them together and say they worked well. If it were me, I would first use Lyrica for 4-10 days, then use the clonidine alone for 7-10 days after that. That’s what I would do.
Hello I am 12 days clean coming off subaxone how long can I take clonidine for is it the firs days or can it be taken at is needed for the first couple months because of exsesive sweating and anixitey it works for me and if so how much is the dose to combat the sweating and anxiety
Thanks
Hi Matt!
Ok, so I am currently on day 34 (including -3 for half-life) from 8mg jump off from Subutex. Tapering just didn’t work for me in the past because I was so severely dependent after many years of taking the medication. Even a slow, micro taper would send me into horrible wds. Got sick of being handcuffed, and decided this was the way I had to do it. I’ve been reading your articles and studying the comments. Very helpful. Unfortunately for me, incredibly enough, I am still in the acute phase. My symptoms have lessened a bit of course, but even after a month of this I’m still getting chills, sweating, goosebumps, yawning, sneezing, mild RLS occasionally, and of course, everyone’s personal favorite, insomnia. I’ve been taking clonidine 0.1mg 3x/day, I took valium for the first ten days because it was so rough, I felt like I got run over by a 20 ton truck! Although I was suffering tremendously, I stopped the benzos after 10 days because I didn’t want to become dependent. Unfortunately for me, after that I didn’t sleep for a week straight. Tried calm support and OTC sleep meds, but it was like eating M&M’s. So after that, I took gabapentin for 4 days to help me sleep, (day 1 300mg, day 2 600mg, day 3 900mg, day 4 900mg) I know this is not a very high dose, but I slept 5-6 hrs each night I noticed tolerance builds very quickly though. Once again I was worried about dependency. So I switched to 50mg Trazodone, combined with 0.1mg clonidine 30 min before bed for the last 4 days. I’ve been getting about 5-6 hrs a night with that. Can’t believe I’m still having bad physical symptoms even after a month. Hopefully should be coming to an end soon over the next week or two. Do you think I should switch it up and try gabapentin again maybe 900-1200mg? If so, how long could I take the gabapentin for without becoming dependent? Don’t want to become dependent on Trazodone either (I know it’s “non habit forming” but c’mon who are we really kidding here) also, is it safe for me to take clonidine for over a month? BP has stayed within normal range, but I’m worried about dependency with that too and I hate the side effects! Makes me so weak and dizzy. I also have klonopin 1mg tablets that I could use if absolutely necessary. I just don’t want to stay on any med for too long during this insanely long and difficult acute physical wd. On a positive note, I’ve been in good spirits and I am an extremely mentally tough person. I know once the physical symptoms stop, I will bounce back very quickly. My iron will has carried me through this to this point and I have not wavered once. Sorry for the long winded comment, just wanted to give you the pertinent facts and also to thank you for everything you are doing!
Max
Wow I am in this same boat now. Been on subs for nearly 10yrs and I’m scared to death the long use will be absolute hell to withdraw from. But I gotta peel this gorilla off my back. So glad I found out about clonidine recently. How much longer did the physical symptoms last?
I have been a steady Suboxone user for 2 years now and have been prescribed clonidine while tapering off I feel as if I will be on Suboxone for the rest of my life I am so sick and tired of relying on this medication I need something that’ll help I was not informed correctly on how to taper off while taking this medication if anybody has any suggestions on how to taper off of Suboxone while taking this medicine that would be great
Hi Jessica,
I’m going to provide you with a link to my best article on tapering off Suboxone:
How To Taper Off Suboxone Like A Champion>>
Hi, my husband is addicted to heroin and i am trying to decide what to do to help him get off of it. I am thinking maybe clonodine will do the trick but as i see everyone here is saying he will also need to be put onto an antidepressant. I am just wanting to know if the 5 day plan will work or will it be iffy. I want my husband back, any response would be wonderful
Clonidine works well but after the acute detox, there are weeks to possibly months of feeling tired and other symptoms. So it’s not an easy process.
Matt, you say that after the acute detox, many symptoms, like fatigue, etc, may stick around for months. Can clonidine be used for this phase and what dosage would you suggest?
Thanks in advance.
Hi Missy,
Some doctors prescribe clonidine for the post-acute symptoms in low dosages.
Hi-
Addiction is a horrible thing for anyone to experience as is dependence.
Currently, I have been on OcyCotin 15mg ER 2x’s per day and Ocycodone 10mg 4x’s per day for the past 1 year. My doctor prescribed it to me before and after my 2nd neck surgery. I am now addicted and dependent. Recently, I stopped taking the ER and am taking only the IR – about 50-70mg IR each day. I cannot taper as it hurts and I cannot trust myself with the pills. I have to stop cold turkey.
A couple of years ago, I was in the same boat but on hydromorphone. Pretty much equivalent doses to what I take now. I was on that for years. However, I was able to taper off in no time and without any horrible withdrawal symptoms. This time is different. I cannot take less than 50mg a day without feeling horrible.
Currently, if I forget to take a pill or if I take too many during the month and run out, I am miserable. I get teary eyed, and horrible aches and the anxiety is unmanageable. I have never had to be without for long as there are too many people that I know that have these drugs. But I have decided that I no longer want to be a slave to these. I don’t want my life to revolve around them as it does now.
This weekend, I will be detoxing. I called my doctor and he has clonidine waiting for me at the pharmacy. I am terrified and excited at the same time. I know that I need to do this.
What I want to say about your husbands situation is that he should at least try. What is the worst that could happen? Failure? We all fail, but lack of trying doesn’t ever amount to success. We are a society that is enslaved to these drugs. Whether its our own doing or that of a doctors prescription, there are too many lives effected. It has to stop. I would challenge you to try. If he doesn’t at least try, you could lose him. I am going to be praying for you and your husband regardless of the choice you make.
I hope to hear news from you soon. I will post my outcome whether it be good, bad or indifferent. My hope in my heart is to help as many people as possible when this is over. We have one life. Why throw it away and chase a high that will never get us anywhere but maybe to an early grave? Why?
Good luck and God Bless.
How did it go with your detox using clonidine?
Hi Bridget. My situation nearly exact same as yours. I know it’s been awhile. How did your cold turkey go?
Regards,
Craig
If all it does is calm you down, screw that I have valium.
I have a question I am currently a heroin user and I really want to stop. I have some cloridine hydrochloride pills and I am wondering how long after my last use to T start with them or can I start right away without going into withdrawal.. How many hour after my last use.
To everyone that is scared of opiate withdrawal, it’s not that bad. Takes a few days for the physical detox to end and then the mental game but you will feel better. N offense to anyone but if you abused opiates it’s the price you have to pay to get clean. I abused pills then heroin and detoxed cold turkey. I tried everything from Suboxone to methadone and those just postpone the inevitable. It’s not worth it. Get some clonidine, a small supply of a benzo if you can (not totally needed), neuontin also if you can and stay hydrated and busy. Being distracted helps so much. Get to a detox center if you want to make it easier. There’s no shame in that. Once your head clears up and you feel again then the physical stuff almost seems very bearable. It’s horrible to be trapped by a drug and I feel for eveyone trying to get off but anyone can do it and it’s worth the bad days because they’ll go away. We turn into wimps and say it’s to hard but so is addiction. It’s much easier being clean. I hope that anyone reading at least tries. The drugs will always be there if you want to go back.
I REALLY WANT TO TRY Clonidine BECAUSE I AM NOW FEELING MORE WITHDRAWALS EVEN AFTER I HAVE BEEN USING MORE GABAPENTIN , DAM !!!
AND I BET WHEN I ASK MY PRIMARY CARE DOCTOR TO PRESCRIBE Clonidine FOR ME TO USE FOR MY WITHDRAWALS HE WILL TELL ME TO GO TO MY ADDICTION DOCTOR IF I WANT TO TRY Clonidine . DAM !!
William,
Clonidine is the most commonly prescribed medicine for opiate withdrawal relief. It wouldn’t hurt to ask your primary.
~Mary
OAS RECOVERY SPECIALIST
Hello everyone,
Please excuse any typos, I’m hoping to fall asleep soon I’m very tired. I was taking tramadol for this past year for endometriosis pain. I’ve taken Vicodin, Percocet after all of my surgeries and never had a problem coming off of them. Now I found myself taking 400-500mg a day to take the pain away. Anyways, I wanted to take back my life and go CT. I weened slightly , going down to 200mg for 2 days a 100mg for one day And that was it. I made it through day 1 okay with the fevers and chills and then day 2 was almost done the anxiety came with it. And nausea as well, I thought i was going to die. So I went to the ER and they gave me Chlonidine and Ativan and Zofran for the nausea to take home. I’ve felt a lot better since getting that medicine and I’ve actually been able to sleep for a little while. Except I feel like a log and I don’t really want to move. I’m still in pain in my joints hurt. But I’m going onto day 4 tomorrow so wish me luck.
Your story is just like mine, I was taking Tramadol for back pain and I really did not know how addictive it was until I was already there. I have tried tapering and it has not helped I have no energy at all. I want to talk to a doctor about taking chlonidine to help with withdrawal. But I am scared to death of the withdrawal symptoms and I can handle the chills and stomach problems but I can’t handle the restless legs and I have to be able to sleep. Does anyone know what I can take to prevent restless legs and something that will help me sleep?
Crissi,
Lack of dopamine contributes to RLS. There are natural solutions to help in the production of dopamine. Amino acids are a good to build dopamine. The ones that will help do this are DLPA, L-tyrosine and L-dopa. Making sure to get the necessary nutrients is also key, so a good multi vitamin should also be taken. Give up excess sugar, starches and caffeine since they inhibit the production of dopamine. Exercising and meditation are also good ways to produce dopamine and endorphins (which have been replaces by opiate use). If you are taking an antihistamine such as Benadryl, this may be increasing the RLS symptoms.
There are medications which can help with RLS. Dopamine agonist medications used for diseases like Parkinson’s Disease can help. Mirapex and Requip are often prescribed to fight RLS. Gabapentin (neurontin) & Pregabalin (Lyrica) also have been used for opiate withdrawal symptoms and work very well to help with both RLS and insomnia.
~Mary
OAS RECOVERY SPECIALIST
*DISCLAIMER- Imformation given here is not to be considered medical advice. Please talk with your Dr before starting any new medications or supplements.
Hello Mary ;
I HAVE BEEN USING METHADONE FOR 15+ YEARS !!!
DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY WEEKS OR MONTHS IT WILL TAKE BEFORE I WILL BE OVER METHADONE USING THOSE PAIN PILLS . ???
William,
Methadone withdrawal can last up to 6 weeks. However, with long acting opiates such as methadone or suboxone, PAWS or post acute withdrawal syndrome, is more prevalent and this (mostly mental symptoms) can last as long as a year or more.
You might want to look into Kratom or even suboxone.
~Mary
OAS RECOVERY SPECIALIST
How long do I need to wait to take 0.1mg of clonadine after my last hit of heroin? I’m also on clonazepam… I wasn’t given directions as to when to take each but I don’t want to take them at the wrong time or too soon. My late hit was 4 hours ago and I’m committed… Any advice as to when to take each would be greatly appreciated. I’ve been on 1mg clonazepam 2x daily for over 3 years with no issues and no need for increase in dosage thankfully. I’ve been through this before but without clonadine… I’m excited to go through hell to get up and see the light again.
Hi my name is shane and I have been prescribed oxycodone 30s 5 times daily for the last year. I failed a drug test at PM and like most people who are abruptly cut off of their pain meds I turned to heroin injecting about .1 grams twice a day for the last 5 weeks will the clonidine help my withdrawal symptoms and how long do you recommend I take it?
Hi. I’ve been tappering from oxycodone, I’m on week 2 and have actually cut my use in 1/2 …I was prescribed Clonidine today, I was told to take 0.1 mg 2wice a day…I have 3 more days of tapering then I’ll be done with the oxy… How bad will my withdrawal effects be? I’m so deathly afraid of them…I’ve been trying to care for myself, eat right. I’m just curious about the withdrawal when I’m out…will Clonidine really help keep them at bay?? Thank you in advance for your help!
It’s hard but it’s not that hard I have had to withdrawal from oxycodone at least three times now and once from morphine to prevent myself from becoming a lifelong user I have never used clonidine before but I’m going to try it this time it’s all in how bad you want to be done with it a strong enough will and you can do anything hope this helps
I am in the process of getting off Oxycodone slow release and instant,l did a lot of research and this is what I’m doing,it may help you but I’m not a doctor so please check what’s best for you,
Clonidine tabs
Valium tabs
Advil for aches etc
Nasal spray for runny nose
And multi vitamins
Magnesium tabs
Remember to eat as healthy as you can too.
Hope this may help
I’m currently disabled due to Degenerative disc disease as well as other medical diagnosis. I also have chronic recurring kidney stones which also cause quite a lot of very severe pain. I’ve been seeing a pain management Dr for the last ten years where I’m regularly drug tested to ensure not only am I not taking anything that I’m not prescribed but to also check the levels of the drugs I am prescribed in my system to monitor for abuse. I’ve never abused my medications and have always taken them as intended specifically for pain relief so that I may try to live a life without constant suffering. Unfortunately my pain management Dr retired in January and I’m unlucky enough to live in a state that considers anyone who’s in need of pain medication an addict which is not always the case nor is it fair or professional! There’s a difference between addiction (to get “high”) and being dependent (needed for legitimate pain relief) I fall in into the dependent category and therefore trusted my Dr and followed his advice. When he retired I’ve been unable to find a new Pain Managment Dr to take over my care due to the amount of pain medication I’ve been prescribed for many many years (200mcg Fentanyl patch every 48 hours and 30mg Oxycodone up to 9x’s a day for breakthrough pain) Fed up with Doctors in my state stereotyping everyone as “addicts” and refusing to help those with legitimate pain and leaving us to suffer with little alternative unless we’re willing to go to illegal means in order to obtain medication or use drugs such as heroine just to have relief from the constant never ending pain as well as to avoid having to suffer through withdrawal. I’ve lost two of my aunts, both who died from using pain medication purchased on the street I also recently had a dear friend pass away as well who purchased a fentanyl patch on the street and tried chewing it like gum. These tragedies I feel could’ve been prevented if they had been under the care of a knowledgeable pain management Dr. I refuse to become another tragedy so I’ve taken it upon myself to detox of my pain meds with hopes of someday finding a new Dr who actually cares and understands that not everyone is out to get high, many of us are barely even living because of the pain we’re forced to endure on a daily basis. I’m so lucky that I had a compassionate Dr when I went to the ER seeking help from the misery of withdrawal. She prescribed me the Clonidine patch which literally was the single reason I didn’t end up trying to buy drugs on the street, not only for pain relief but to end the horrific withdrawal symptoms I had begun to experience mere hours after my last Fentanyl patch was done. I never even knew Clonidine was an option to ease withdrawal symptoms! For anyone who is hesitant to try detoxing off opiate pain meds I would urge them to give Clonidine a try. Of course nothing is going to make detoxing easy but there are things available to ease withdrawal and make it possible to succeed. After reading so many of the posts on this site I’m anxious to learn about these natural supplements that will further help me. After going through all this misery I’ve promised myself that even after I manage to find a new Dr to help me manage my pain I will not return to the high doses of opiates I was previously prescribed, I understand some medication will be needed to manage my pain and help me to live a life with some quality but I will continue to endeavor in my search for all natural ways to supplement my pain medication along with continued PT. For anyone with doubts about the effectiveness of Clonidine…it doesn’t hurt anything to at least try. Regardless NEVER give up!
Your story and mine are almost identical. I lost my doctor and got stuck on methadone for pain management. I would have to take so much to managemy pain so instead I only take enough to keep me working I am about to lose itm I an tired of being treated like a junkie. I can’t afford 15$ a day. And I can’t find a doctor that will treat me
Same exact story!! Heck you would have thought I had wrote this. I’ll tell you what it’s easier for a drug addict to walk up in a dr office or er and come out with opiate scrips but I’m disabled with chronic inductive pain and can hardly get a damn aspirin. The medical community went right down the shiter!!!!
It is extremely difficult to separate drug seekers from patients that need pain meds to improve their lives from debilitating conditions, and unfortunately judges are now punishing doctors if/when one of their patients die from overdose, and if 2 patients die, they can get 20yrs in prison. Mds are super scared bc the DEA monitors all their prescriptions. The system is rigged and patients who need pain meds and the Physicians both the victims.
I have just been told of the medication you feel saved your life from horrific w/d’s. I’m scared. I went from 75 mcg’s to 50 to 25 then 12, I managed my breakthrough pain with Norco 7.5 as needed. Up to 4 a day. Now, I am coming down off the 12.s and tapering off the Norco or generic Vicodin, as it’s known. I’ve come a long way, and it’s been difficult. The pain for me is so real with so many ailments from an autoimmune disorder that is going to be with me for the rest of my life. I have to live with that. My question is this. Did the medication the ER doctor give you help that much, I’ve read so many that have said it didn’t work. I was so excited to hear you did so well. And I am so happy for you. Although, I don’t want to see street drugs, I would just suffer, I would like to hope something out there is helpful. How long did you have to take the Clonidine before you felt free? I know I can do this, but it would help to know some one there can give me some insight.
Thank you and God Bless you..
Let’s all be honest, an addict is someone who is addicted to a substance, you may not abuse your pain meds but you are still an addict. In my opinion it’s the pain management doctors that are responsible for this epidemic. Good luck on your detox for your addiction, and please don’t even seek out a new “pain mgmt” doctor.
I HAVE BEEN CLEAN OFF HERION FOR 15 DAYS AND I HAVE NO ENERGY. TAKING ALOT OF VITAMINS NOTHING SEEMS TO BE WORKING..ANY SUGGESTIONS
Get on an anti represent I take Prozac really helps with that part
Your energy will come back, what really worked for me was to drag, crawl my self to the local ymca/gym that has hottub and steam sauna. I would sit in the hottub for like an hour, hit the steam room then shower. I always felt 50 to 80% energy increase afterwards.
Hello I’m 32 years old & currently 16 weeks (4 months) pregnant with twins; I am addicted to Percocet I take 5/6 a day! I started reading where my babies could be born addicted to them! So it scared me & I tried to stop cold turkey- 12 hours later I was having withdrawals, bad migraine & was extremely dehydrated! Went to the er & was advised not to stop cold turkey like that, instead taper down & for me to call obgyn to set up a taper plan! Unfortunately the obgyn office said that is not something they would do since they did not prescribe the meds! Therefore I’m lost can I use clonidine while pregnant to get off??? Plz any help I do not want to continue these pills in fear for my babies I am so ready to get off but can’t seem to find help from anyone! I am so lost!
Tonya so sorry to hear about this situation. Many times doctors at the Opiate Treatment Program I worked at would put pregnant women on Subutex while pregnant, then have them taper off Subutex after the baby is born. Look into this further and ask your doctor.
I would gradually taper yourself off by taking less everyday. Good luck!
After 15 years of opiates I made it. Its rough, clonidine really helped. All of you can do it also!!!
Hi. My Dr. put me on methadone and then attempted tapering me off of them before I gave birth. Which was great, However , my son was born 1 month early while I was still taking 30 mgs a day. I asked my Dr. 2 finish w the tapering and was advised that they could no longer prescribe me the methadone now that my baby was born. N she was sorry n couldn’t risk losing her license. That was 1 yr. 2 months ago. Now my addiction 2 methadone/ opiods is worse than ever. The bitch should have lost her license 4 quitting on me in the middle of a tapering program that she started in the 1st place. But if I’d of had a better Dr n theyed finished what they started , it is safe for the baby, u won’t be sick, and I’d be living addiction free now.
Hi I too was addicted to Percocet during my 2 pregnancies my OB doctor gave me 40 per month he said that withdrawal symtoms would be worst of a risk to me and the baby. I’m a chronic back and migraine sufferer it’s the worst pain ever. Today I’m still on them only because of withdrawals wish I had a good support team but being a mom of 3 2 with Autism I need my strength doesn’t addiction SUCK
I have been addicted to opiates for 6 years and every time I try to detox I can’t get through the withdrawal stage and my doctor only prescribes me Valium 2 mg I have tried to tell him that the Valium does not work at all and I have a 18 month old daughter who needs me so I need more then Valium I can’t suffer through the withdrawals it’s too hard I need extra help
Here is an article that I encourage you to read, which has other remedies that may offer value to you, which you can get over-the-counter:
Opiate Withdrawal Remedies Review
This is my second day I took a subbox and now I’m about to take a clonidine what should I do
Need help with the following withdrawal trying to kick
I have been addictted to Tramadol for only 4 months.dr just stopped abruptly. Wont give it to me. Helps my pai and depression. I was off it 2 days ended up in hopital. Gave me clonodine. Took 2 so far. Not helping my pain
Im currently on clonidine for opiate withdrawal and was also prescribed cymbalta…I am concerned at what I’ve read about cymbalta withdrawal. . Wondering if you have heard anything on this or have any opinion. ..I don’t want to get into another mess having withdrawals ever again. . This has been horrible but I’m trying to make it through… everyday feels like a battle. .. Day 5 and still so weak I can hardly shower. .I also quit adderall as well. .. does this ever get better. .. Energy come back? If it doesn’t soon I’m concidering suboxone because I can’t work like this.. Thanks for your time and experience with helping others through this!
Yes I’ve heard about withdrawal from that medication. It’s an SNRI and so coming off cold-turkey after being on it for awhile has caused withdrawal symptoms in some people. And for your other question, please check out the following article:
How To Get Your Energy Back After Quitting Opiates
I am a single mom who abused adderall, vyvaynse and opiates. When I decided to quit opiates I called my family doctor who just happened to be opening a suboxoune clinic at the same time. He quickly prescribes me 12 mg suboxoune. I found out thru family members who are iv heroine addicts that I was on way to low of a dose of opiates to even think about the suboxoune. I was taking 6 to 6 xartamus extended a day (similar to per comet but long acting). Turns out I am now taking literally 10 times as much opiates in the suboxoune than I was originally. I highly recommend NOT taking suboxoune. I realize it can help those of us who are further along in the addiction, however if there is a possibility you can take colonadine instead I highly recommend to do that instead. I quit adderall because I started to feel the intense u healthy effects it had physically and mentally. My metabolism was shot and I couldn’t think half the time. I have 2 kids and as single mom with a son son who has a disability need to be available and alert 100% of the time if he needs care. At first the energy was great but I’d always run out and crash. You feel terrible and the worst brain fry for a week or so. However it’s the beginning of my 3 week clean and only 4 mg suboxoune with colonadine and I’m feeling a lot better. If you take amino acids, try and do some type of cardio, and take this opportunity to try and change your lifestyle in any positive way you can you will feel great in a month. I gave been thru a lot in my life emotionally, and physically and I can promise if you just make the promise to your self that you will make the “right” choices for YOU for that moment or that second you doubt yourself you will succede. Know that their have been countless people in the same position that you are in now and they have successfully got thru it. Use the strength of others as your crutch if you need to and know you are not alone in the is endevor. There is someone else in this world who is going thru or feeling the same as ypu, and also someone who has been there and gotten thru it. So if you are going thru he’ll keep on going because at this point you are already invested in doing the right thing. So take vitamins amino acids for addreall withdraw, try to not take suboxoune if you do PLEASE don’t stay on more than a month, and take colonidine. Find a motivator (for me it’s my kids and I do art and walk my dogs every time I get the urge to use something or that irrational urge to immediately feel differently than I do). You will be okay, and I am sorry if this is droanong, I just relate and feel so strongly that there is power in numbers and we can all help eachother, and need each other.
Hi Suzanne thanks so much for sharing i really would like to talk to you one on one for I have questions is there anyway I can somehow send you my info confidentially and you can call me please? Or you Matt
Thank you that was very inspiring. Just what I really needed. I started clonidine 2 days ago and I feel ok. I feel better than I thought I would detoxing off heroin. I really don’t think it will be too much longer!
I am down to 2mgs every 5 hours of dilaudid. I’ve been on a much larger dose for 3 1/2 months because of intense pain from 2 back surgeries in that timeframe. I tried to quit, but did suffer painful withdrawal. Yesterday my family doctor prescribed clonodine every 8 hours. I am tapering off the dilaudid 1 mg per week. Does this sound reasonable?
I am on cymbalta as well( depression for yrs) it has really helped me with depression and trying to become clean again…..I have had ” wd” issues from stopping the cymbalta. Very bad symptoms! But everyone is different…if you are only on it for wd issues I would taper off from it. If not, stay on it. It has been the only thing that helps with my depression and anxiety.
Don’t go on suboxone, I am now withdrawing from it after being on it for 8 years and it is pure hell.
I was told no withdrawl from sub but there is major withdrawl. I wish I never went on the sub, biggest mistake I ever made.
Do you take the clonidine at the same time you are weaning off the dilaudid? Or do you have to be totally off the dilaudid first? I’m on it for severe pain but since starting it, I have my migraines 24/7 now and they used to only be 2-4 a week. Now they’re nonstop. I’m going crazy with the neverending pain and now am addicted to the dilaudid as well. Yet opiates are the only thing that make my migraine stop. But then it always comes back. I don’t know what to do. My dr. doesn’t know what to do either. No dr has ever been able to help me with my migraines until the dilaudid. It helped but backfired on me. I’m so desperate. Pls help. I’m only 17 and my life is hell. I tried Withdrawal Ease but it was worthless for me.
Hi Ariela,
I’ve heard of doctors prescribing clonidine to patients that are weaning off opiates. These are typically less in amount than a doctor would prescribe someone that is going through acute opiate withdrawal. As far as the migraines go, I have heard those are do to psychological issues. Have you heard of Tension Myositis Syndrome? Please check out the following thread on migraines caused by this: http://www.tmswiki.org/forum/threads/my-migraines.2072/
Migraine HA’s are not due from psychological issues. Psychological issues may worsen them and increase them as well as weather changes, strong odors, certain foods. Recent studies show they originate in the trigeminal nerve. The daily migraines could be due to a rebound effect from the frequent opioid use. Like getting a headache when you stop drinking coffee b/c your system is so used to it. The headache improves when you drink coffee. Same thing with pain medications. I started getting migraines in my early teens, they can be hereditary as well, my mother had them. I still get them occasionally, but not chronically. I wish you the best. But know the migraine is not all in your head.
Have you tried Imatrex That worked great for my headaches. It comes in a nose spay that worked the best. Or a pill form and even an injection self contained. Just push a button and boom it works in seconds.
Hello…
I am about to begin oxycodone withdrawal, tapering aided by Clonidine.
Did you have success getting off Dilaudid with Clonidine?
I am too afraid to stop all opiates and just use Clonidine, so am hoping it’s ok to use Clonidine as needed while I taper…
I have a pain pump implant the battery has suddenly died and I am suffering opiate withdrawal. While I am taking Dilaudid by mouth it isn’t the same as it going through the pump. My Dr prescribed clonidine to help with withdrawal symptoms even though I am still on the oral opiate. I sure hope there isn’t a problem taking the clonidine and still taking the Dilaudid!
Hi Ariela,
I’m currently on Clondine to ease withdrawal symptoms and came across your comment regarding your severe migraines. I have suffered from migraines for most of my life and like you nothing ever helped, in my case not even opiates helped relieve any of the pain. I’d undergone all the tests EEG’s MRI’s, CT Scans and after all that no definitive cause was discovered. This left me with trying one medication after another and another and so on for years with no relief. Until purely by accident while being treated for something else I finally found my miracle and have been almost totally migraine free since 2008! The medication I was prescribed is called Topamax. (It is NOT a narcotic) I was originally prescribed Topamax as part of a depression regime when my migraines suddenly stopped I found out it has had great success in treating migraines among other things. If you have not previously tried this medication I’d think about discussing it with your Doctor to find out if it’s right for you. Best of luck and I hope you’re able to find your miracle.
Thunder headaches are a side effect of Dilaudids, for some reason. Either switch to a different opiate, or proceed w/ your plan to quit. Dilaudid is a synthetic opiate, but it’s effects are mostly the same, when it comes to withdrawel. I haven’t heard of any other opiate, synthetic or not, giving anyone Thunder headaches, tho.
Does Clonodine show up in urine analysis? My brother is taking it to withdraw from heroine and is entering rehab on Monday where they will be testing him. We just want everything to go smoothly. Thank you.
I’ve never heard of a treatment facility testing for clonidine because it is just a hypertension medication, not really something people abuse to get high on. They usually test for illicit drugs only.
Hope you’re feeling better. Im on Clonidine for trying to get off the patch after 8 years: Fentanyl for severe chronic pain.
You’re going to get through this Jerry! Sounds like you have a solid plan and are doing what it takes to help your body get past the Suboxone withdrawal. I’m proud of you. Keep up the good work, and stay courageous! Take care.
Matt my name is Aaron Jones and suffering from withdrawal it’s torn my family up . My wife left me and won’t be with until I can prove to her I can be clean. She is talking to another guy and I want to be clean it’s so hard
I’m michelle.im on day one of using clonidine for my opiate withdrawal.i feel sick still though.