In this article, you’re going to learn what happens when a person takes Kratom and Suboxone together. This is a subject that confuses a lot of people.
Let’s get started…
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Kratom vs Suboxone
Kratom and Suboxone have similarities and differences. They are both technically opioids, although Suboxone is semi-synthetic and Kratom is natural.
Here are the similarities of Kratom and Suboxone:
- Kratom and Suboxone are both partial opioid agonists (meaning they both fill opioid receptors partially and have opiate-like effects)
- Kratom and Suboxone can both treat opioid addiction
- Kratom and Suboxone can both help with pain relief
- Kratom and Suboxone can both cause physiological dependence
- Kratom and Suboxone can both be addictive
- Kratom and Suboxone dependence can both lead to withdrawal if a person stops abruptly
- Kratom and Suboxone both have antidepressant qualities
Here are the differences of Kratom and Suboxone:
- Kratom is a natural plant that is not regulated federally, meaning anyone can purchase it and use it (unless you live in a state or country that has banned Kratom); Suboxone is a prescription medication that you need to get from a doctor
- Kratom can vary in its alkaloid content and thus medicinal quality and can vary in purity; Suboxone is always 100% the same
- Suboxone is prescribed for opioid use disorder (OUD) while Kratom is taken for opioid addiction, chronic pain, anxiety, depression, ADD, PTSD, premature ejaculation (PE), and more
- Kratom is a short-acting opioid and Suboxone is a long-acting opioid
- Suboxone contains the addition of an opioid antagonist (naloxone) to prevent people from injecting the medicine, while Kratom does not contain any opioid antagonists
- There is a “ceiling effect” for Suboxone, meaning at 32 mg if you go any higher nothing happens; Kratom does not have a ceiling effect so you can continue increasing effects by raising dosage
The Kratom and Suboxone Dynamic
Millions of people have used Kratom to help them get off Suboxone, and much fewer have used Suboxone to get off Kratom, but it’s still common.
Doctors are trained to always prescribe Suboxone or Subutex for patients that present with Kratom addiction.
It’s much easier to use Suboxone for Kratom addiction than it is to use Kratom to quit Suboxone.
The transition from Kratom onto Suboxone is usually quite easy and fast.
But the transition from Suboxone onto Kratom is usually harder and slower.
Here a simple way of explaining the science of why the above scenarios work:
- The long-acting Suboxone helps to prevent withdrawal when quitting Kratom cold-turkey; you essentially replace the Kratom opioid in your blood and CNS with buprenorphine, the long-acting opioid in Suboxone
- The short-acting Kratom helps to prevent withdrawal when quitting Suboxone cold-turkey or when tapering off; you essentially replace the buprenorphine opioid in your blood and CNS with Kratom, a short-acting opioid
- During both transitions, you’re still on opioids the entire time, and since your blood always has opioids in it you don’t go through an acute or post-acute withdrawal syndrome
- If you decide to come off Suboxone quickly after using it to quit Kratom, say 4-7 days, you won’t go through acute withdrawal from Kratom or Suboxone but you’ll go straight into post-acute withdrawal
- If you decide to come off Kratom slowly after using it to quit Suboxone, say 3-4 weeks, you won’t go through acute withdrawal from Kratom or Suboxone but you’ll go straight into post-acute withdrawal
Using Kratom and Suboxone Together
If you’re already taking Suboxone daily and you take Kratom, one of a few things might happen. Depending on several variables, the Kratom might make you feel good, feel nothing at all, or feel bad.
Here are some of the main variables on how Kratom will feel on Suboxone:
- Suboxone dosage
- How long you’ve been taking Suboxone
- Kratom dosage
- Kratom plant strength
- Kratom purity
- Kratom strain or combo of strains
- Your individual biochemical profile
Typically the only time a person actually feels benefits from taking Kratom while on Suboxone is when their Suboxone dosage is lower than usual or low enough to let some Kratom effects in.
The main ingredient in Suboxone, buprenorphine, has a high binding affinity at the mu-opioid receptors.
This means that high dosages of Suboxone pretty much eliminate the effects of taking another opioid.
But when a person is either tapering quickly off Suboxone or doing a cold-turkey detox off it, that is when the Kratom can help and offset Suboxone taper or withdrawal symptoms.
The reason so many people are able to quit Suboxone nowadays is due to using Kratom for Suboxone recovery.
Kratom works extremely well for most people quitting Suboxone.
The only problem is that Kratom itself is an opioid and one that causes physiological dependence and even psychological addiction.
So Kratom works as a short-term bridge when transitioning off Suboxone and it works for long-term maintenance use as well.
Some people have a pretty easy time getting off Kratom after using it to quit Suboxone, while others have a difficult time doing it and others still cannot even quit Kratom.
What People Say About Kratom and Suboxone
Depending on who you talk to, you’ll receive mixed feelings and thoughts on Kratom and Suboxone. There are people who recommend using Kratom to quit Suboxone or Suboxone to quit Kratom, and there are those who are against using either of these.
I don’t believe there is a “one-size-fits-all” approach to treatment.
Each person has choices that will work better or worse for them, but depending on their situation and goals, these best choices will not be the same for 100% of all people.
- Kratom and Suboxone are both partial opioid agonists that used by millions of people worldwide
- Kratom is a natural opioid while Suboxone contains buprenorphine, a semi-synthetic opioid
- Kratom is legal federally but banned in some states, while Suboxone is a prescription medicine
- There are many similarities and difference between Kratom and Suboxone
- Millions of people over the years have used Kratom to quit Suboxone
- Doctors are now trained to prescribe Suboxone when patients present with Kratom addiction
- Depending on a variety of factors, taking Kratom while on Suboxone could lead to you feeling good, nothing, or bad
- On high dosages of Suboxone, it’s doubtful a person will feel the effects of Kratom
- On low dosages of Suboxone, it’s more common for a person to feel the effects of Kratom
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